The Study of Racialism

DChapman · Posted: Mon 06 Oct 2008 12:49 Post subject: Obama Youth

This is scary, at least to me. Watch the video and read some of the comments after.

anonymouse · Wizard Joined: 09 Oct 2007 {Posts: 603 }

These kids are emulating college fraternity "line" members' routines. Nothing scary or odd about it, at least not to me. If they started "stepping" immediately after it would not surprise me at all

G-Man · Moderator Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 2608 }

Exactly...Many people are unaware of this and this video is making the rounds on the internet as proof of some kind of race nationalist black youth movement that supports Obama.

Having said that, the sentiment that some kind of messianic, charismatic figure is primarily responsible for my success and the realization of my dreams is disturbing. But Obama seems to inspire these feelings in some people.

the floacist · New User Joined: 04 Jan 2008 {Posts: 17 } Location: nyc

The only people who would find this 'scary' are people who do not are have no knowledge of culture.

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G-Man · Moderator Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 2608 }

So you're saying black Republicans don't know anything about African-American culture?

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OTHER · Posted: Thu 16 Oct 2008 11:24 Post subject: Re: Obama Youth

OTHER · Posted: Thu 16 Oct 2008 11:36 Post subject:

Was it the same as this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxJ7t3U3TDg

If so, I didn't really find it scary. I liked the beginning where they talked about being inspired by Obama. There are a few reasons I considered voting for Obama come November, but the most profound is the phenomenon depicted in this video - the inspiration of young "Black" American males. Hopefully, that inspiration will last whether he wins or loses the election. I want young "Black" American males to be inspired to strive higher. I don't want Obama to be our next President. Laughing

The only part I did not like about what these young men were doing was the healthcare part. Really? These teen-aged boys wanted to come up with a routine that highlighted multiple aspects of Obama's healthcare plan!? Surprised

Uhhhh, I doubt that. Whatever adult(s) helped them with this should have let them do it however they originally planned to do it. IMO, that part was completely contrived by someone other than those kids.

Another reason I think that most people, whether aware of African-American culture or not, should not find this too scary is that they started off chanting "Alpha, Omega. Alpha, Omega." How could that be a reference to anything other than God?

If this video is not even the one Dean posted, then, never mind. Wink

Dragon Horse · Posted: Thu 16 Oct 2008 12:19 Post subject:

I find this entire thing silly.

It is a bad thing for a black American male to find inspiration in something positive and aspire to professional careers????? Wow.

Yes there is a downside in that Obama is only human and can let them down but the reality is that when Harold Washington became mayor of Chicago or Bradley became mayor of L.A. it might not have took many gang bangers and crack heads of the street but I would bet for some borderline children it did change their ideas of what was possible in this society for them. It definitely affected Obama (if you read Dreams from My Father) he spends about a page talking about Washington...he sounds like he was in awe of the man.

The comparisons to Hitler Youth or Soviet Youth are kind of corny and I'm not sure what type of person who knows history is going to take that type of thing seriously.

On one example, you are talking about organized political movements (one right wing the other left wing) that controlled all branches of government through extreme populism and also violent suppression of decent who had an active overt policy to brainwash a generation of children, in the Nazi case it was mandatory that you joined...

Obama's campaign is not behind this or promoting it to my knowledge. Obama does not have black boots or brown shirts on the street beating up Republicans, Libertarians, or rival black politicians who support Hillary Clinton, Obama's campaign has not made a mandate that black youth should join this group or HAVE TO JOIN IT.

This is independent freedom of a association created by kids (and likely their families) who were inspired by someone they see as part of their group doing something amazing when many males in their group are just getting by. Does anyone really find it a stretch that this could occur.

If a Gypsy was close to being Prime Minister/President of Italy, Spain, Romania, or Bulgaria...if a Zainichi Korean was close to being Prime Minister of Japan, if a Turk was going to be Chancellor of Germany, a North African president of France...does anyone not think that their respective groups would have at least a small percentage of similar followers who were inspired to personal greatness due to this person?

When I first heard about this I got the impress (from white people on talk radio) that these people were some type of Black Panther spin off who were pro-Obama, who were preaching hatred and threatening revolution if he did not, win, etc.

Then I saw the Youtube Video and I started laughing. My wife (Japanese national) thought it was cute and said it was good...she didn't know the socio-economic background of the kids but she said, "it is better they are organizing around positive goals and being inspired by someone who is highly educated, family man, etc" than being in the street.

I agree.

I would bet good money that at least 1 or 2 of those boys has no father-figure in their home and for them, Obama is now an image of what a black male should be.

You can argue about Obama's politics all you want but if even 25% of black male Americans were like him, I'm pretty sure that would be a net positive for the black community and the country.