Posted: Wed 24 Sep 2008 18:31 Post subject: Where is all this Palin Hatred coming from?
It's one thing when the media bashes a candidate, but this latest story has my mind reeling. To hate someone so much that you degrade someone for looking like her - that is just way over the top. Why are people so hateful toward Sarah Palin?
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Palin Look-Alike TV Anchor Gets Hate Mail
by FOXNews.com
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
A news anchor at a FOX affiliate in Maine has received “hate mail and nasty phone calls” from viewers who think she bears a striking resemblance to the Republican vice presidential nominee.
Cindy Michaels, a newscaster from FOX affiliate WVII-TV in Bangor, Maine, wears her hair up in a similar style to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and sometimes wears glasses.
“Since the day that McCain announced that Sarah Palin was his running mate, I had friends and family tell me that I look like her,” she said. “I don’t think I look like her, I think I look like me.”
Viewers have noticed the similarity, and Michaels has received phone calls from viewers that have gone from unflattering to just plain harsh.
“You’re so much more interesting and so much nicer than Sarah Palin,” one woman said. “We hope you don’t keep that hairdo. You don’t want to be tarred with that same brush. You know, she’s not coming off really well OK?”
Michaels told FOX News that one caller said it was irresponsible for her to wear in hair in a manner that resembled Palin.
“They think that it’s not good for me as a journalist to be trying to look like Sarah because it’s not a time when I should be trying to sway voters, and that’s what they’re accusing me of doing,” Michaels told FOX News on Wednesday.
Another claimed she was trying for “a Kmart version of Sarah Palin” because she didn’t wear glasses on the air.
“Maybe they don’t believe in her, maybe they don’t want her as vice president,” Michaels said of the phone calls. “So if they wanted to say something to her maybe they thought well by saying something to Cindy, it’s kind of like saying something to her in their mind.”
The similarity between the two has been noticed nationwide. “Inside Edition” is sending a crew to film Michaels and “The Ellen Degeneres Show” contacted her as well, she said.
The two-year veteran of the station tells FOX News she’s flattered by the attention.
“She’s an inspiration — no matter what your beliefs are — for women,” Michaels told FOX News. “And on top of it all, I stand by it, I think it’s an honor to look like her because I think she’s beautiful.”
Posted: Mon 29 Sep 2008 09:31 Post subject: Re: Where is all this Palin Hatred coming from?
OTHER wrote:
It's one thing when the media bashes a candidate, but this latest story has my mind reeling. To hate someone so much that you degrade someone for looking like her - that is just way over the top. Why are people so hateful toward Sarah Palin?
Got five years, Other??
Let me break it down in a VERY short version of the list of reasons why:
- she's a moronic twit who believes that American troops going to Iraq is "an act from God" (Goodness!! Pseudo-uber-Christians are the bane of my existence)
-she went from the mayor of Wasilla to the governor of Alaska which has a state population smaller then a Florida county to being a NOMINEE OF THE SECOND CHAIR TO RUNNING THIS COUNTRY. What was John Mc-Needs-A-Cane thinking?
- she went to four schools in six years for one or two semesters each. As opposed to Obama who graduated from Columbia AND Havard Law School Magna Cum Laude, , spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend eight years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the State Senate's Health and Human Services Committee, spend four years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs Committees and Biden who graduated from Syracuse University with honors
- Palin thinks that just because Alaska is right next to Russia aka "you can see Russia from here" she's an expert on foreign policy experience. I fell over laughing when she said this
- Palin trashed Obama about being a brilliant community organizer,
which involved creating a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters
- Palin has NO EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER!! ESPECIALLY compared to Biden!
Seriously.......who the hell would vote for this woman? I can't believe America would pick a this bimbo over someone who actually knows something. But then again, since when did a Republican candidate be required to have any competence or knowledge at all??
Other, have you been living under a rug these past eight years we had conservative halfwit Bush running this country? This country will go down the tubes with a huge SPLAT if these self-riteous (as if they have ANYTHING to be self-rigteous about) conservatives run the U.S administration another four years. God help us all.
Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008 13:22 Post subject: Re: Where is all this Palin Hatred coming from?
Helena21 wrote:
- she went to four schools in six years for one or two semesters each. As opposed to Obama who graduated from Columbia AND Havard Law School Magna Cum Laude, , spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend eight years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the State Senate's Health and Human Services Committee, spend four years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs Committees and Biden who graduated from Syracuse University with honors
Helena21 doesn't realize this but comparing Palin who is a vice-presidential running mate to Obama a presidential candidate doesn't reflect positively on Obama.
Many Obama supporters and/or people who dislike Republicans do this and I'm not sure they realize how this makes Obama look.
In my memory there has never been such a comparison in an election. Presidential candidates are supposed to be compared to people running for the same office and their running mates compared to each other.
A more appropriate comparison would be Palin with Biden and McCain with Obama.
Although I think Palin isn't ready for prime time, I believe if she had the same educational background and public sector experience minus the Evangelical Christianity and gun-tottin' rural state image, Democrats and liberals would be singing her praises and Republicans and conservatives would be pointing to her lack of expertise and intellectual sophistication.
What partly angers many critics of Palin who are left-liberals or Democrats (there are conservative critics of her as well) is the fact that McCain basically played the game they play so well and cynically chose someone who is basically a token to attract women voters.
But mark my words, comparing Obama to Palin, which too many people do, paints him as a light weight.
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Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008 15:37 Post subject: Re: Where is all this Palin Hatred coming from?
G-Man wrote:
But mark my words, comparing Obama to Palin, which too many people do, paints him as a light weight.
I disagree. Comparing the two actually points out one serious mistake that McCain made by choosing Palin - he forfeited his best argument against Obama, i.e., experience and/or lack thereof.
I would have loved for Biden to be on top of the ticket, but he never made it to Super Tuesday, which is when the Delaware primary was... either way, her recent talks about invading Pakistan... and the protection that she's receiving from Joe Biden during the VP debates... and Republican politicians calling for her resignation... yeah... I don't think this can be attributed to some "liberal" media. She's a moron - she makes Dan Quayle look like Einstein.
...I'd hate to think about what happens in this country when McCain has a stroke or a heat attack in a year or two, and she's our new president.
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Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008 16:34 Post subject: Re: Where is all this Palin Hatred coming from?
Richard Miller wrote:
G-Man wrote:
But mark my words, comparing Obama to Palin, which too many people do, paints him as a light weight.
I disagree. Comparing the two actually points out one serious mistake that McCain made by choosing Palin - he forfeited his best argument against Obama, i.e., experience and/or lack thereof.
In some ways the comparison is valid, but Obama really should be compared with McCain, not Palin. It's almost as if the media is using the comparison to suggest she will be President because something will happen to McCain. Actually McCain's best argument against Obama is his suggestion to raise taxes on anybody in a dire economy. Any such action would have disasterous results. You cannot tax to prosperity, just cannot. McCain should be-labour that point and hit it hard.
In some ways for me, Palin is a breath of fresh air: not from inside Washington, not a lawyer (BIGGIE for me). Still, too inexperienced IMO.
Richard Miller wrote:
I would have loved for Biden to be on top of the ticket, but he never made it to Super Tuesday, which is when the Delaware primary was... either way, her recent talks about invading Pakistan... and the protection that she's receiving from Joe Biden during the VP debates... and Republican politicians calling for her resignation... yeah... I don't think this can be attributed to some "liberal" media. She's a moron - she makes Dan Quayle look like Einstein.
Though not the best choice for VP, IMO, she's no moron. Neither was Quayle. Quayle came across that way, but behind the scenes was totally different. I think Obama also suggested invading Pakistan for which he was hammered for.
Richard Miller wrote:
...I'd hate to think about what happens in this country when McCain has a stroke or a heat attack in a year or two, and she's our new president.
When McCain has a stroke or heart attack......??? Do you have a crystal ball or something??? Granted, I do not think she is ready for prime time, but neither is Obama. I would be willing to take the chance with Obama in 1998, but not 2008, too much is at stake.
From what I gather it is simply any mainstream media outlet that a conservative perceives as biased. Note the conspicuous absence to referencing mainstream media like The Wall Street Journal, Fox News, the AP (where most get their stories and facts from), Newsweek, Businessweek, Time and FM talk radio stations.
If the same mainstream media outlets are critiqued by liberals as having a right-wing bias or are critiqued by non-partisans for other reasons, all the moniker of "liberal media" really tells you is where someone sits on the political spectrum. It tells you nothing about the actual media content.
Similarly, you'll hear "corporate media," a moniker which tells you that the user perceives the consolidation of media into a few corporations as worthy of note.
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Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008 18:55 Post subject: Re: Where is all this Palin Hatred coming from?
DChapman wrote:
In some ways the comparison is valid, but Obama really should be compared with McCain, not Palin. It's almost as if the media is using the comparison to suggest she will be President because something will happen to McCain.
...could be that the media is protecting Palin. They're doing it in the VP debates. Imagine what she'd look more like when compared to Biden.
DChapman wrote:
Actually McCain's best argument against Obama is his suggestion to raise taxes on anybody in a dire economy. Any such action would have disasterous results. You cannot tax to prosperity, just cannot. McCain should be-labour that point and hit it hard.
The magic number is 250K. That certainly isn't "everybody".
DChapman wrote:
Though not the best choice for VP, IMO, she's no moron. Neither was Quayle. Quayle came across that way, but behind the scenes was totally different.
I loved brussels sprouts as a child. That doesn't change the fact that people in general think they're disgusting.
DChapman wrote:
When McCain has a stroke or heart attack......??? Do you have a crystal ball or something???
The man is in his 70's. He's had cancer, what, five or six times? If you were a betting man, could you honestly tell me that your money would be on him living though two terms?
DChapman wrote:
Granted, I do not think she is ready for prime time, but neither is Obama. I would be willing to take the chance with Obama in 1998, but not 2008, too much is at stake.
You saw the list I posted of presidents who've had less experience than Obama... and even less than Palin. I'm not commenting on her experience at all. Hell, Theodore Roosevelt had less experience than Palin. However, Roosevelt and Obama had/have the mental capacity. Palin does not. While McCain may say things that I don't agree with, while Obama may say things that I don't agree with; no one can say that either doesn't know what they're talking about. Palin, on the other hand, puts her foot in her mouth every time she opens it.
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Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008 19:27 Post subject:
Richard Miller wrote:
Hell, Theodore Roosevelt had less experience than Palin.
Not really, TR was governor of New York for two years when selected as VP for McKinley. New York was the largest, wealthiest state at the time.
Richard Miller wrote:
...could be that the media is protecting Palin. They're doing it in the VP debates.
Richard Miller wrote:
The man is in his 70's. He's had cancer, what, five or six times? If you were a betting man, could you honestly tell me that your money would be on him living though two terms?
You never know. Despte his back problems, who would have thought a man in his 40's would not live throughout his term.
Despte his back problems, who would have thought a man in his 40's would not live throughout his term.
LOL if you are talking about Kennedy then come on! He was taken out, he didn't die.
That's why I said, "You never know...". Death is death whether it be by natural causes or not. I don't think I'm wrong here....
Well that's the whole point of the VP pick...govern in case of death by any cause. That's why there is so much concern about Palin from people who question her abilities. Regardless of how McCain might kick the bucket, she'd be in charge, and him being sick just makes it more precarious.
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Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008 19:58 Post subject:
Helena21 wrote:
chip wrote:
As a newbie to this forum I would say two things: the liberal media and the effects of partisan politics.
Thank God for liberal media.
This country needs a change from the idiot conservatives running this country to the ground for eight years.
Let's not forget the idiot "liberals" who have been in charge of the legislative branch during most of those 8 years. The executive branch cannot do it by itself.
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Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008 20:05 Post subject:
DChapman wrote:
Richard Miller wrote:
Hell, Theodore Roosevelt had less experience than Palin.
Not really, TR was governor of New York for two years when selected as VP for McKinley. New York was the largest, wealthiest state at the time.
He was VP for six months. To Palin's credit, she had some political experience prior to being governor. That's besides the point. The point is that I'm not going to knock anyone based on "experience".
DChapman wrote:
Richard Miller wrote:
...could be that the media is protecting Palin. They're doing it in the VP debates.
Just as I thought. McCain supporters don't want to talk about this, do they?
DChapman wrote:
Richard Miller wrote:
The man is in his 70's. He's had cancer, what, five or six times? If you were a betting man, could you honestly tell me that your money would be on him living though two terms?
You never know. Despte his back problems, who would have thought a man in his 40's would not live throughout his term.
Jack Kennedy? The man was shot! Something that every president is at risk for. "Back problems" are not in the same category as cancer and old age. Besides, even if it was in the same category, Lyndon B Johnson was his VP, not someone like Sarah Palin.
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Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008 20:19 Post subject:
Richard Miller wrote:
The point is that I'm not going to knock anyone based on "experience".
Interesting. So you would be willing to give a complete novice a shot (no pun intended)????
Richard Miller wrote:
Jack Kennedy? The man was shot! Something that every president is at risk for. "Back problems" are not in the same category as cancer and old age. Besides, even if it was in the same category, Lyndon B Johnson was his VP, not someone like Sarah Palin.
Did that shot not make him dead?????? My point was, you were speaking in terms as if something will happen to McCain. My point is, despite his age and health, you never know, and you do not. Who would have thought that an older man like Ronald Reagan would have recovered as he did after being shot and serve two full terms??? I did not at the time.
My uncle suffered a very bad stroke in 2002. He is paralyzed on one side and does not get out of bed much. He was a drinker and chain smoked Pall Mall's. He is now 73, one year older than McCain. My bet was that he would not make it to 70. He did and then some.
Richard Miller wrote:
Just as I thought. McCain supporters don't want to talk about this, do they?
Show me the examples of the media protecting Palin, and then we will have a discussion about it. I will gladly address any examples you have.
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