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zsana
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 Posted: Tue 29 Jul 2008 18:16 Post subject: PICTURED: The million to one black and white British twins |
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Pictured: The black and white British twins born at odds of a million to one
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1037455/Pictured-The-black-white-British-twins-born-odds-million-one.html
| Quote: | It will be very easy for new parents Tracey-Ann and Andrew Balasco to tell their baby twins apart - because one is black and the other is white.
While Orlando inherited his mop of black curls and big brown eyes from his Jamaican mother, his sister Natalia has blue eyes and wispy blonde hair.
Andrew, 28, said they created quite a stir at the hospital when they were born three months ago.
'When Orlando came out, he was very dark and had loads of dark hair. Then Natalia appeared and she was so fair you could hardly see her eyelashes,' he told the Daily Mirror.
The chances of twins having such different skin tones are a million to one, although there have been a handful of publicised cases in the last few years.
A black Ghanian mother and white German father have just had their own dark and light-skinned twins in Lichtenberg.
With non-identical twins two eggs are fertilised by two separate sperm and are like siblings who just happen to be born at the same time. Therefore they can inherit different skin colour genes from their father and mother.
The difference between Orlando and Natalia has become more marked since their birth, according to their mother Tracey-Ann.
'Orlando is even darker and Natalia looks nothing like me,' she said.
'But it will be easier for them to be individuals.'
The doting mother believes her children's colourings are due to her mixed family. Her father was half West Indies Indian and she had a white great-great-grandfather on her mother's side. Her husband Andrew who is an IT technician from Bristol is half-Italian.
'They're not just one of each, black and white,' he said alluding to their heritage.
'They're half Jamaican, one quarter-English and one quarter-Italian.' |
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Famu
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| Posted: Wed 30 Jul 2008 02:03 Post subject: |
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| These stories are getting to be annoying. |
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zsana
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The only thing annoying about the stories is the comment "one in a million chance".
The families and babies themselves are beautiful. And it's a positive for biracial children to see themselves and their families reflected in the popular media/press because it is still unfortunately a relatively rare occurrence.
What IS unfortunate is, the public is still (after all of these cases that have been reported for decades) being mislead to believe these occurrences are somehow "rare" and "remarkable" in regards to biracial children.
It's not. I see biracial siblings with drastically different coloring, features, hair-textures, and eye colors quite often.
However, many people still get surprised apparently when this happens with twins. |
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fwsweet
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| Posted: Wed 30 Jul 2008 14:09 Post subject: |
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| zsana wrote: | | The only thing annoying about the stories is the comment "one in a million chance". |
I may have to turn in my "guy" badge for saying this, but I too like to look at pictures of babies. I agree, though, that the one-in-a-million business does get irrtitating, since so many sites (including this one) have debunked it so many times.
Twins are about a one-in-a-hundred occurence. And siblings often look very different. There is about one-in-sixteen chance that one fraternal twin will be darker than the darker parent and the other twin lighter that the lighter parent. Perhaps the public will weary of being told every month or so that another "one-in-a-million" event has happened. |
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Powell
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| Posted: Wed 30 Jul 2008 15:32 Post subject: Genes |
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| fwsweet wrote: | | zsana wrote: | | The only thing annoying about the stories is the comment "one in a million chance". |
I may have to turn in my "guy" badge for saying this, but I too like to look at pictures of babies. I agree, though, that the one-in-a-million business does get irrtitating, since so many sites (including this one) have debunked it so many times.
Twins are about a one-in-a-hundred occurence. And siblings often look very different. There is about one-in-sixteen chance that one fraternal twin will be darker than the darker parent and the other twin lighter that the lighter parent. Perhaps the public will weary of being told every month or so that another "one-in-a-million" event has happened. |
Wouldn't the lighter parent have to have recent dark-skinned ancestry and the dark parent recent light-skinned ancestry (parent or gradnparent) in order for that to happen? I've noticed that the blond babies are often born to "black" parents who are genetic mulattoes. |
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DChapman
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| Posted: Wed 30 Jul 2008 16:22 Post subject: |
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| Famu wrote: | | These stories are getting to be annoying. |
Why is that? |
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MisterLawyer
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| Posted: Wed 30 Jul 2008 17:13 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Wouldn't the lighter parent have to have recent dark-skinned ancestry and the dark parent recent light-skinned ancestry (parent or gradnparent) in order for that to happen? I've noticed that the blond babies are often born to "black" parents who are genetic mulattoes |
Sort of. The ancestry need not be recent. But the genes that provide the resulting skin color must be present in some combination in the two parents. Each parent would have to be carrying genes for a skin tone lighter and darker than their own. Since skin tone is the result of several alleles, all but the lightest and darkest skinned people meet this criteria in areas where there is some variation in skin color. |
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divana
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| Posted: Sat 02 Aug 2008 21:36 Post subject: |
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| Why this is such a surprise to many people is beyond me... |
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Famu
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| DChapman wrote: | | Famu wrote: | | These stories are getting to be annoying. |
Why is that? |
I dislike them being described as one "black" twin and one "white" twin. One twin is black, the other is white! Amazing!!!!!
It's really annoying. |
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| Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2008 12:44 Post subject: |
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| Famu wrote: | | DChapman wrote: | | Famu wrote: | | These stories are getting to be annoying. |
Why is that? |
I dislike them being described as one "black" twin and one "white" twin. One twin is black, the other is white! Amazing!!!!!
It's really annoying. |
I know what you mean. Aren't both of the babies mixed? Don't they have the same two parents?  Some of the stories will say the babies came out as two different races. What!? Come on now. Isn't that when it's FINALLY time to reassess what we mean by "race"? |
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MP mulattoprince
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| Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2008 11:23 Post subject: |
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| The sad part of about it is different phenotypes different destiny's. One will be seen as black and the other as white regardless of parents, and they will be treated accordingly. This is sad but true. |
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